Editing a Gun-fight.

[Twee]

Can anybody tell me how I would edit two gun-fights and make it look like they were happening at the same time?

Eg. 2 men go on opposite side of the building and fight a group of people. How would you make it look as if it was going on at the same time?

[johnny16mm]

I had a similar film where two men exited a building and each went a seperate way and each were confronted by cops on seperate sides...The way I handled it was I followed one guy out of the building, he was confronted by cops, show the shootout begin and fade out and then fade in to the same shot of the two men coming out and this time I followed the other guy and his insuing battle then I just jump cut between the two gun fights...it was pretty effective...

But this might not work in your case.

Later,
Brandon



[This message has been edited by johnny16mm (edited March 18, 2000).]

[DragonGuy666]

In HEAT, the movie, Robert and Al are sitting in that place together, talking. Not once are they both in the same frame, it shows one, and then the other. Just Flash it back and forth, with a dead stare before they pull their guns and start shooting, show some eyes, flashing from the good guys, to the bad guys. Like on tombstone.

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[Communal_AntiSocialist]

Split screen?

[johnny16mm]

OH god Split screen...ARGH! pr you can just do a montage of TOTAL dolly/zooms or maybe a dream sequence, and ZOOM A LOT too! (sarcasm)

those always works!

If you can avoid CHEESY...you'll be doing good! Watch some Godard or Tarantino for multiple stories going on at the same time.

AVOID CHEESE AT ALL COSTS!

Later,
J16MM

PS. you do mean these two guys will be on two seperate sides of the building...not even in relation to one another at the time. If so I'd alternate between the Two but BE CAREFUL to not make it look like they're in the same place. ((180 degree rule aplies)) good luck!

[tashunka]

Don't listen to any one else. If you are don't you think you're just biting an idea. I'm sure if you think about it hard enough you can come up with your own ideas. Remember who you're making the film for........ i hope it's yourself.

PS. splits aren't cheesy unless DONE cheesy.

[mattias]

what's that? of course you should listen to everybody else, and of course you should always make your movies with an audience in mind. this is very important. if you want to make your audience think your movie looks "cheesy", and there are actually plenty of reasons to do that, use split screen, zooms and freeze frames. if not, don't. always have the audience in mind, even if you're making the movie "for yourself".

[Jake Dakota]

First Id like to say that Ive been reading a lot of great replies to a lot of posts.

My comment is on split screen used in films.
Besides seeing it in countless documentaries (Woodstock for example) where it is used very well, I think the supreme user of split screen would have to be Brian DePalma.

Anyone that would argue that DePalma's use of split screen is "corny" has not seen many of his movies. For those that intend on using split screen many lessons can be learned through DePalma's films.

DePalma's action is simultaneous and there is no question of what is happening when and where, when you can see it unfolding at the same time.

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[johnny16mm]

DePalma does have some great uses of split screen and Split Screen CAN be quite effective. BUT BE CREATIVE. There's plenty of ways to show stuff without haveing to split the screen and hold my hand and show me what's going on. Watch DePalma. He Uese SPlit screen for added EFFECT. Not to hold your hand.

I'm just saying don't succumb to ho-hum film making tactics. Figure out a UNIQUE way to do this. Again DePalma did good split screen, Now FIGURE OUT HOW YOU want to do it.

CREATIVITY is a huge asset, and homaging a previous director is obvious.

Later,
J16MM

[dembogunn]

I am a big fan of a split screen. also if the scrpt allows you can open you're film with the gun fight from one pespective. when you get to the fight later show it from the other angle and people will be like Wow I see.